Why Pakistanis Joke Through Pain | Humour as a Coping Mechanism
We unpack why humour is one of the most powerful β and overlooked β coping mechanisms, and what it says about our collective emotional landscape.
Real, unfiltered conversations about social, global, daily life, and mental health β with your hosts Marriam Ahmed & Aly Balagamwala.

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From mental health to relationships, hustle culture to healing β no topic is off limits.
Season 1 Β· 24 Episodes
Every week, Marriam and Aly sit down for an honest, unfiltered conversation. Filter by topic or dive in from the top.
We unpack why humour is one of the most powerful β and overlooked β coping mechanisms, and what it says about our collective emotional landscape.
Anxiety isn't just a personal problem β it's a cultural one. We dig into why living in uncertainty has become our new normal.
Every January we reinvent ourselves. By February, we're back. Why does the "new year, new me" promise keep breaking β and what actually works?
Nobody warned us that adulting would feel like this. Quarter-life crises, burnout, and the gap between what we expected and what we got.
One person pulls closer, the other pulls away. The anxious-avoidant dynamic explained β and what it takes to break free from it.
Why do we feel so behind when there's no finish line? A conversation about career delays, timeline anxiety, and trusting the process.
Our Story
Ab Next Kya? β Urdu for βWhat's Next?β β was born from a simple frustration: the conversations that actually matter were happening in private. In DMs. In late-night calls. In hushed voices.
Marriam and Aly decided to bring those conversations to the open. No panels, no pretense β just two coaches asking the questions everyone else is thinking but not saying out loud.
From mental health and society to everyday life and global issues, Ab Next Kya? is a fortnightly reminder that you are not alone in what you're going through.
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What we stand for
No scripts, no filters. Just two people talking honestly about the things that shape our lives.
We normalize the conversation around mental wellbeing, healing, and emotional intelligence.
From local communities to global issues β we zoom out and zoom in, always with empathy.
You are part of this conversation. Your stories, questions, and DMs shape every episode.
The Voices Behind the Mic
Two hosts committed to having the conversations that actually matter.
NLP Master Practitioner Β· Leadership Coach Β· Speaker
Marriam is a Certified NLP Master Practitioner, mindset coach, and leadership expert with 18+ years in senior corporate roles and 8+ years of coaching experience. She has worked with 6,000+ clients globally, helping high-functioning professionals move from stuck to decisively aligned β through her signature SHIFT Frameworkβ’ that integrates NLP, Timeline Therapy, and leadership psychology.
Credentials & Background
Thinker Β· Conversationalist Β· Community Builder
Thoughtful, curious, and never one to shy away from a real conversation. Aly's perspective on social dynamics, global issues, and everyday life gives the show its balance. He's the kind of person who makes you feel heard β and then asks the follow-up question that changes everything.
Credentials & Background
What's Coming Up
Live recordings, workshops, seminars, talk shows, and more β we're just getting started.
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Clinical Psychologist
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EP. 11 Β· Truth in the Age of Misinformation
Nutritionist & Wellness Coach
EP. 15 Β· Food, Body & the Stories We Tell
Tech Entrepreneur
EP. 19 Β· The Pakistan Startup Story
Activist & Policy Advocate
EP. 23 Β· Women's Rights: Where Are We?
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